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No, Talk Therapy does not lead to Suicide

A common trope heard is that LGBTQ rights are necessary to prevent suicide, or that laws called ‘conversion therapy bans’ must be passed to prevent talk therapy and pastoral care (‘conversion therapy’) which is supposedly leading the LGBTQ identified individual to suicide.

SAFE-T is the broad, professional term for any type of change therapy that is conducted by licensed, trained professional therapists.

SAFE-T means sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy.

In the current politicized climate concerning professional therapies that allow sexual attraction fluidity exploration (SAFE-T), meaningful dialogue between psychotherapists who support and oppose change oriented goals is quite rare. Also rare is a meaningful and fair dialog concerning homosexuality and change between professional media, social media, court justices, politicians, educators, and people of faith. Ethics and unbiased principles of communication are essential to the growing diversity of those in disagreement on these issues.

https://www.davidpickuplmft.com/rt-is-safe-t

But is talk therapy or pastoral care really leading them to suicide? Sexual Orientation Change Efforts (SOCE) is what talk therapy and pastoral care are categorized as when someone seeks help to align their orientation to their faith, or in an attempt to explore their heterosexual potential while being homosexually attracted.

Voice of the Voiceless provides a lot of research to support our position. Visit the report titled “The American Psychological Association and the Deceptive Science on Homosexuality: A Comprehensive Review of the Evidence” here https://apareport.voiceofthevoiceless.info or on our page https://www.voiceofthevoiceless.info/the-report. Also be sure to visit https://www.therapyequality.org for a lot of helpful information about the harms of conversion therapy, testimonies, and letters to government leaders.

The most quoted research comes from the LGBTQ Lobby ally Williams Institute of Berkley. A research arm of the LGBTQ lobby. Their research apparently supports the idea that most LGBTQ identified individuals that have done SOCE also experienced suicide thoughts. However, their report is intentionally misleading and promoting their suicide narrative by conflating the facts. They conflated anyone who had tried SOCE with anyone who ever had suicidal thoughts. I use the word conflate because in reality those people who had thoughts of suicide BEFORE SOCE were also included! Logically someone isn’t suicidal from an event they hadn’t yet experienced, yet that is how the data was grouped and reported on to create the suicide narrative.

When the data is analyzed honestly to account for WHEN suicidal thoughts and SOCE occurred, removing those who were suicidal BEFORE SOCE, unsurprisingly, the data showed that SOCE actually helped lower suicidal thoughts among the LGBTQ identified in the report.

The truth is out there. The LGBTQ lobby has built a house of cards around this ‘conversion therapy’ and suicide narrative. We just have to seek the truth and speak the truth.

Here is the full report:
“Absence of Behavioral Harm Following Non-efficacious Sexual Orientation Change Efforts: A Retrospective Study of United States Sexual Minority Adults, 2016–2018”
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.823647/full

YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxb2RoAZAw0
Professor Paul Sullins takes an honest review of the LGBTQ data and concludes SOCE is not harmful.

Watch this before the LGBTQ lobby demands YouTube take it down.

Special thanks to IFTCC for hosting this conference and bringin Professor Paul Sullins to the forefront of this topic. Without your work the world wouldn’t know the truth!

For more information about “Conversion Therapy” check out their special reporting.

Daren was interviewed on 980 The Mission, Cross Walk – 4/25/2022 Episode 560

Responding to Censorship of ex-LGBT Ministries and Allies

Daren Mehl is joined by Jeremy Schwab, founder of Joel 2:25 Ministries who today, like a dozen other ministries and allies, had their Facebook page removed without warning. The ex-LGBTQ community is the canary in the mine of Christian persecution. The LGBTQ lobby is probably the largest influencer running the narratives of anti-Christian testimony, anti-Christian discipleship, and anti-Christian evangelism.

Daren and Jeremy go through several articles the LGBTQ lobby has put out as targets their community for erasure by big tech. Daren shows videos that this censorship in the name of ‘conversion therapy bans’ has always targeted the Church and Christians. And there is crazy amount of evidence that change is possible, even a leading LESBIAN researcher is trying to end the ‘born gay, can’t change’ narrative.

Links to other videos include:
https://bit.ly/LDExplains01
https://bit.ly/SBProxy01 (Long version)

Censorship of X-OUT-LOUD and IFTCC

Watch “Correcting a False Research Narrative: SOCE, Minority Stress and Suicide | Prof Paul Sullins” on YouTube

If you control for when suicide indicators happen, suddenly the results show SOCE lowers risk of suicide. That is, knowing when someone was struggling with suicide, and knowing if it was BEFORE or after seeking SOCE, and then accounted for the timing of it, turns out SOCE it’s not the cause of suicide indicators but that SOCE lowers suicide risk!

The trick of the harm narrative in “conversion therapy bans” is correlation of suicidal indicators and SOCE, but that’s not causation. SOCE that happens AFTER ideas or thoughts or desires of suicide is not the cause of them. And now the data, when honestly interpreted, shows SOCE helps, not harms. But do people have the nerves to seek truth that goes against popular culture?

Ex-gay Research by Dr. Robert Spitzer is ‘not’ Retracted

Misuse of Science

It is always entertaining when fringe Left-wing actors fall victim to their own theistic worship of the scientific method and its inherent perpetual self-correction. Not long ago, a medical research team published its findings associating a list of disease pathologies uniquely common to homosexual activity. Later, the reseach team published an angry letter protesting “right-wing misuse of their data to advance their arguments.” Oh, really ? People used scientifically proven facts to advance their arguments ? A tragic misuse of science to be sure…

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Long time sex behavior researcher Dr. Robert Spitzer was a leader in the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses in the 70’s. Of course, our understanding of the psychological and medical costs of homosexuality were still quite limited at that time. Spitzer argued that even though homosexuality may be an aberrant adaption, it was a harmless one not requiring treatment. Sadly, the 1980’s would follow bringing the AIDS pandemic that continues to disproportionately haunt homosexual conduct to this day. Heterosexual involvement would come later mostly due to tainted donated blood supplies, bi-sexual cross-infection and shared needle use. It remains exponentially less virulent among healthy heterosexuals nonetheless. Better research and education on the association of disease and homosexuality could have saved millions of lives not only on the subject of AIDS but many other diseases which have demonstrated a higher comorbidity among those engaging in same sex contact. To date, this of course remains a political correctness crime of the highest order – no matter how many lives it costs.

Spitzer found Homosexuality to be Harmless

While Dr. Spitzer found homosexuality to be harmless, he also worked to support the commonly accepted notion that while same-sex attraction had rooted motivations, these motivations could be therapeutically treated to address and correct the desires. This kept hope alive for many who had unwanted same-sex attraction but were unable to change without assistance. In October of 2003, Spitzer published a study to prove his point.[1] Instead of inspiring an exciting intellectual foray into neuro-science and therapeutic psychology, the paper sparked outrage by the well-entrenched LGBT activist community who did not want anyone to know that change, even for those who thought it impossible, was possible. It could incur individual pressure on them to change when they had no desire to do so. The LGBT juggernaut, in full motion by 2003, brought every pressure to bear on Spitzer and anyone having anything to do with his study. Sadly, Spitzer would fall victim to Parkinson’s Disease and begin suffering the deleterious effects throughout the following years. After suffering years of scorn, the aging and sick researcher expressed his sorrow that the study seemed to have caused more harm than good, and that he wished he could retract his interpretation of the data. His comment spread like wildfire through LGBT advocacy channels and the supportive mainstream media as a retraction of his study. However, the study was not and is not retracted.

To investigate why this was so, pro-homosexual advocate Alice Dreger, of the leftist periodical Psychology Today, contacted the editor of the peer-review journal ‘Archives of Sexual Behavior’ where Spitzer’s study was published[2] In her article she elaborates a conversation with journal editor Ken Zucker who expressed a willingness to publish any statement by Dr. Spitzer regarding his study but a refusal to retract the study itself due to the fact that the study results remain valid and unimpugned. In response to Dr. Spitzer bemoaning privately that he wished he could retract his interpretation of the data, Zucker responded aptly,

“I said, ‘I’m not sure what you want to retract, Bob. You didn’t falsify the data. You didn’t commit egregious statistical errors in analyzing the data. You didn’t make up the data.”

Personal regrets are no basis to retract a scientific study

Presently, two things have not happened. Spitzer’s study has failed to be impugned or disproven. It remains a highly cited publication. And secondly, Spitzer never did request a formal retraction of his personal interpretation of the data. And so as it stands, Spitzer’s study results remain concurrent with like studies, media reports of the Spitzer study being retracted are simply false and both hope and successful treatment for those with unwanted same-sex attractions continues.

Dr. Robert Spitzer died in December of 2015. It may only be that his formal retraction of his personal views on the data is still making its way through the mail.  In April 2012, scientific journal monitor Retraction Watch noted supportively that the study would not be retracted because the personal regrets of the author that the LGBT community did not like the results was no basis on which to retract a scientific study.

[1] Spitzer, R.L. Arch SexBehav (2003)32:403.doi:10.1023/A:1025647527010
[2] How to Ex an “Ex-Gay” Study, 4/12/12, ‘Psychology Today’